2003 Audi A4 1.8t Heat Not Working Free Updated
2003 Audi A4 1.8t Heat Not Working Free Updated
08-13-200912:23 PM #1
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HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire trouble.
Last edited by myrick26; 08-13-2009 at 12:thirty PM.
08-13-200912:38 PM #2
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Check your ability output stage on summit of your air box. Unplug it and see if it makes a deviation.
08-13-200912:42 PM #iii
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire trouble.
My motorcar is a 2003, I dont have the ability output stage, or if I do its not in that location. Thanks though
08-13-200907:04 PM #4
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire problem.
08-13-200908:52 PM #v
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Re: Aid!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire trouble.
MAF on the way out.. or Coolant temp sensor.. The car ignores some of the imputs when information technology is in open up loop (warm up) and then when it goes into closed loop it starts to misfire is my gauge. could be master 02 sensors as well. I would outset by checking if you lot have the updated coolant temp sensor.. its green. If not I would showtime with that considering its cheap. A bad CTS could crusade the engine to run rich and that may be why your true cat got taken out.
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08-16-2009xi:20 PM #6
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire problem.
y'all get this figured out OP.
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08-17-200901:48 AM #vii
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Re: Assistance!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted past myrick26
Right, each coilpack has it's ain internal power output stage. A loud sucking audio when the engine in warmed upwardly, is probably a vac leak in a hose nether the intake manifold that is split and the split opens upward as it heats up and the hose softens from the heat. Information technology could likewise exist a leak in the intake manifold gasket near the #ii intake runner, that opens up when the engine is hot. What does the spark plug for cylinder 2 await like compared to the others? I bet it indicates a lean status in cylinder 2, causing the misfires on that cylinder. The only mode the ECU recognizes misfires, is past the momentary dip in crankshaft angular velocity occurring when cylinder 2 is supposed to exist providing a torque impulse to the crankshaft. A lean misfire at that indicate in the rotation of the crank, where a speed dip occurs instead of the expected dispatch, is recorded as a misfire. The fact that the misfires developed afterward replacing the cat is only a coincidence.
Last edited by diagnosticator; 08-17-2009 at 01:56 AM.
08-17-200903:20 PM #8
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire trouble.
Ok so I read on some post information technology could have somthing to exercise with the EGR valve, then I took information technology off and sprayed some carb cleaner in it and and tried to clean it. So after I put information technology back on I have not had the problem, weird I know. Does this brand sense to anyone?? The cyl. 2 spark plug looks the same. The sucking sound sounded more than like the little blower motor (non certain what it is called) at the front lesser right of the engine. Is there a time when you should change the MAF even if it seems to be working right?? my machine does have 94000 miles on it. any other matter I maigh twant to change? Thank you for all the help everyone!!!
08-17-200909:32 PM #nine
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by myrick26
It doesn't brand sense because our cars don't have an EGR valve. The blower runs but for about a miniute after cold start up, to oestrus upwards the cat rapidly. There is no replacment interval for the MAF meter, if it works, cleaning the meter can help accuracy, but that is all.
08-18-200902:38 AM #x
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Re: Aid!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by myrick26
If you lot heard that racket when yous beginning start the machine it'southward secondary air pump
08-19-200912:46 AM #xi
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 ane.8t misfire problem.
and then today it did it once more , this time information technology took much longer and only seemed to happen at lower speeds and at idle. too it threw codes p0300 ,p0301, 0302,0303,0304. this is after i cleanedthe MAF. im starting to feel hopless. any ideas?
08-xix-200905:32 PM #12
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by myrick26
Are the misfires causing vibration or rough running when they happen? Check the fuel pressure at the fuel rail. As I explained before, the OBD 2 fault diagnostics can't determine whats causing the misfires, only that they are occurring. Therefore your troubleshooting procedure involves checking everything in a systematic style that can cause misfires. Make a list of known factors that could be involved with the misfires and check and eliminate each possibility until something is constitute that is off spec. That involves fueling first, then mechanical stuff second. The possibility that it's either a vacuum leak or low fuel force per unit area is my first estimate here, given the current knowns.
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08-19-2009ten:53 PM #13
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
When my cat broke and clogged the frazzle pipe could the pressure have broke the egr/combi valve? After reading many threads online and the wiki board information technology seams like a likely culprit.
08-twenty-200912:08 AM #14
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
i don't think so. There is no error lawmaking indicating a trouble with the SAI Combi valve or arrangement function. Information technology's possible for the diaphragm in the SAI Combi valve to be ripped, and admitting outside air into the vacuum organisation when the SAI arrangement is supposed to exist active, just afterwards a common cold start up, just so the Combi valve would non be responding and the OBD system should set a mistake code for incorrect flow of the SAI organization. Y'all can test the SAI Combi valve past applying vacuum with a hand vacuum pump and if the valve doesn't hold the vacuum applied then the valve is bad, just I don't think that is the instance hither. If the diaphragm is leaking in the SAI valve, that could admit enough false air to cause lean misfires when the valve is supposed to exist activated or open after a cold start. Since in that location is no error code for the SAI system incorrect flow detected, I believe the fault volition be institute elsewhere.
Terminal edited past diagnosticator; 08-20-2009 at 12:29 AM.
08-20-200903:03 AM #15
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Okay at present all the cylinder is missing??? Do me a favor try this method out, Start you vehicle and let it idle and try to open the oil cap off while the engine is running. If information technology's stuck or really difficult to get it off almost likely one of your check valve or PCV is failing. I ran into this trouble before and at a dealer information technology's chosen sludge issue.
08-20-200903:38 PM #16
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire problem.
Its random, usually only happening at idle after beingness warmed upwardly. The oil cap was like shooting fish in a barrel to take off with the automobile running subsequently it was warmed upwardly. I have simply used synthetic mobile one or castrol when doing oil changes. could this however crusade sludge? its merely doing this later coming to a stop and sitting for a infinitesimal at idle. commonly if I turn the car off and restart it is goes abroad for a while. When I floor the gas the cat does thave whatever lag or hesitation either.
I noticed today that the check valve by the coolant temp sensor was crevice and broke in 2 when I was checking the lines once more. Could this cause the problem? I thought it would throw different codes, this check valve cracked on me earlier and only caused surging. I am going to try and get a new one tomorrow, hope information technology solves the problem.
Terminal edited by myrick26; 08-20-2009 at 10:56 PM. Reason: institute somthing! hope it is the problem.
08-21-200901:eighteen AM #17
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Re: Assistance!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by myrick26
That could exist it, let u.s. know after you supercede it
08-21-200906:08 AM #18
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Re: Assistance!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Its the coilpacks I just had to practise all 4 brand sure U go the new R coilpacks
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08-22-200904:35 PM #nineteen
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
I fixed the check valve and still accept the same problem. I updated my coils packs near 8 months ago with the sti R version. This problem is actually random is why I am pretty sure its not the coil packs. It happens at low RPMS and at idle about of the time, once I become going it doesnt happen. where is the pcv valve on my automobile??
08-23-200902:09 PM #20
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire problem.
Hello all. I am new to the forum. I was researching this verbal issue with my 2003 A4 i.8T.
A little groundwork on the result. The whole matter got started under worse conditions with a seized water pump breaking the timing belt and tearing up the cylinder head. The car has 60K miles on information technology and prior to this everything worked fine. Afterwards those repairs were completed (I'll spare you the long arduous story well-nigh how long this took) the car drove drove to the office then home fine. The next day, by the time I got out of the driveway the engine was bucking and so hard I had to stop before the engine concluded up in my lap. I had the car towed dorsum to Audi.
Second repair go round they checked everything, fuel, ignition coils, replaced plugs, and eventually replaced the cylinder head (over again). Again I'll spare y'all how long information technology took them to fix it but at least this fourth dimension I got to bulldoze a brand new courtesy 2009 A4 Quattro around for 6 weeks (oops I let it skid).
Once I got my A4 back I had a vapor lock in the brakes and near had a wreck cause I couldn't terminate. I was however able to get that cleared and the brakes piece of work normally once more. Then everything worked fine for about four days (60 miles driven or so) until the engine started having misfires. I am also recording P0301 misfires with OBDII. Only it seems to vary, sometimes it is cylinder one sometimes three and sometime I become the blinking check engine light but no lawmaking gets recorded to pull.
Subsequently much reading online I feel it is a vacuum leak, merely I have no idea where to get-go on checking the hoses for possible replacement. I don't have much confidence in the Audi dealership's garage at this point either, since I seem to have the same trouble over and over again without information technology beingness solved. Although they did aid with the restriction issue over the phone.
The only other thing I might mention, although I recollect it is unrelated, is that for the past year the automobile won't e'er start on the outset try about l% of the time I have to turn the ignition 2 or iii times to continue the automobile started. It ever fires and starts for a moment, information technology merely seems to die within 1 - 3 seconds then I accept to start it again, sometimes twice. I have replaced the bombardment within the last year and that isn't related.
I know I am not helping solve the question posted on this thread, only thought that presenting my case my further an answer for both of united states of america. Thank you.
Last edited by opherko; 08-23-2009 at 02:fourteen PM.
08-24-200904:19 PM #21
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Re: Aid!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire trouble.
That actually doesnt help me.
08-24-200911:36 PM #22
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire trouble.
Originally Posted by myrick26
From what i've heard.. sti coilpacks are pretty shitty.
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08-24-2009xi:43 PM #23
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire problem.
bu the misfire doesnt follow the coilpack and it is very random.
08-26-200911:03 PM #24
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire problem.
Why would a vacuum leak cause a very random problem. Past random I mean it happens randomly.
08-27-200907:27 AM #25
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by myrick26
Because the vacuum leak is random? Just a thought. The other attribute of the symptoms is that it doesn't happen with a cold engine, requiring ~ 1O miniutes of warm upwardly fourth dimension for the symtoms to occur once again, right? If that is still true, then that is a clue every bit to what is at the source of the consequence.
08-27-200909:04 AM #26
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire problem.
Had to have mine back to Audi. The coilpack is bad even though they were all tested 2 weeks ago past the dealer. Should get the car back today.
I am no expert, just if it random and doesn't follow coilpacks then it is likely something else.
08-27-2009xi:55 AM #27
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Re: Aid!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Car wouldnt even start today? hopefully information technology will throw some new lawmaking when I check it. The check valve that is attached to thesmaller hose coming out of the vavle cover in the back had some oil on the side going away from the engine, is this normal?? if not the hose continious down to some other hose and so to higher up where the oil filter screws in, could something be messed upwardly at that place causing a vacuum leak?? Thanks for all the assist everyone has given me!! Im going to do a leak test this weekend merely am affriad the leak might be internal and I wont hear anything.
08-28-200912:40 PM #28
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Re: Assist!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire trouble.
Then i did the leak pressure test and establish ane very pocket-sized leak. This did not solve the problem though. There was near a eye beat sound coming from the oil poor area similar air was being leaked into the oil of the engine, is this ok?
Last edited past myrick26; 09-06-2009 at 03:29 PM.
09-ten-200907:21 AM #29
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Re: Assist!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire problem.
I take an 03 avant quattro ane.8t and am troubleshooting the same problem right now and going nuts.... the only code i go so far is p0302 i replaced the coil pack on cylinder 2 and checked the spark plugs the misfiring still occurs but not as bad... there was a sabbatical hose that had a crack i replaced also...... does anyone think our problem has to exercise with fuel injectors? (when i am looking at my engine the 3rd one from the forepart has some residue effectually it) also about 2 months ago my turbo went and i replaced it with a k04 turbo but did naught else (the reason for that was the audi dealership wanted over $3,000 and the upgrade but cost me around $1000.... would the turbo cause this? i am about to go bank check the codes again requite u an update when i become back.... also could it be a unlike coil pack than cylinder 2 if the lawmaking is p0302....
Final edited by GreezyG; 09-ten-2009 at 07:27 AM.
09-10-200908:57 AM #30
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Re: Assistance!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by GreezyG
You should try replacing all 4 coils at 1 time. Don't simply supersede the bad one.
At that place's extra stress placed on the others when ONE goes bad. And then information technology's likely your misfiring is from the other coils being overworked.
Supervene upon all four, and then keep the 'newish' i in your trunk as a spare.
Next time one goes out, put in your spare to go you to the dealership, then replace all iv once again; it'southward best practices.
09-17-200910:45 PM #31
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire problem.
I got similar problem. Motorcar runs fine and misfires only when I terminate at a traffic calorie-free. Checked coils, injectors, plugs. Adjacent step is vacuum leaks. Also, tin a coolant temperature sensor cause a misfire?
09-eighteen-200905:12 AM #32
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by MOLDOVANOS
How do you know it's just misfiring at cease lights, past experience only or confirmed by logging with VAG-COM?
09-18-200905:14 AM #33
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Re: Assist!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by myrick26
No, the oil fill cap must seal tightly, supervene upon the cap gasket as needed.
09-eighteen-200905:21 AM #34
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted past opherko
Have the fuel pressure checked. The '03'southward had a fuel pump call up, practice you know if your A4 had the fuel pump replaced under the recall or not?
09-eighteen-200905:25 AM #35
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Re: Assistance!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by myrick26
At that place should not be any oil visable leaking from anything on the engine, if there is, then the leak must exist fixed.
09-18-200905:xxx AM #36
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 i.8t misfire trouble.
Originally Posted past myrick26
The "PCV" vavle is located in the pinnacle of the oil filter/block ventilation base casting under the intake manifold.
The common factor with random multiple cylinder misfires is the fuel/air ratio. If too lean, so there will exist random lean misfires. What are the fuel trim values in the measuring blocks with VAG-COM?
09-18-200908:06 AM #37
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Re: Help!! 2003 Audi A4 ane.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by diagnosticator
I drove around with Vag-com to see live data and I can feel misfire likewise.
09-18-200908:forty AM #38
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire trouble.
Originally Posted by MOLDOVANOS
Cheque the fuel trims in the measuring blocks. For idle misfires, there will be "Additive" (idle) fuel trim of a large value, probably exceeding the allowed +/- 25 percent fuel trim limit. At that place will probably be Multiplicative (above idle load/speeds) fuel trim also, merely below the maximum 25 percent trim limit.
09-18-200909:17 AM #39
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Re: HELP!! 2003 Audi A4 1.8t misfire problem.
Originally Posted by diagnosticator
How do I fix that problem?
09-xviii-200909:35 AM #40
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Re: Assistance!! 2003 Audi A4 one.8t misfire problem.
sounds like what yous need to do is the same matter i only did... disconnect the unabridged vac arrangement from the crank breather coming out of the cake to the valve comprehend vent, all the manner to the turbo intake pipage. This freaking thing is a picayune pain in the donkey to remove but you demand to practice this and quit wasting time worrying about this besides as giving basically no guidance in this tread thats very relavent.
A visual bank check isn't going to do much if you have an valve thats bad. When you have this hose section off, you'll first accept the chance to run into if at that place are any cracks which you lot're not able to run across visually through the intake manifold runners. Then you tin check function and brand sure that the valves are working properly... yous should take a wait at my thread hither and wait at the diagrams to figure out what to do... quite helpful - helped me fix my outcome concluding night.
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